VICI Properties Inc. (VICI) Q3 2022 Earnings Name Transcript

October 29, 2022

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VICI Properties Inc. (VICI 3.68%)
Q3 2022 Earnings Name
Oct 28, 2022, 9:00 a.m. ET

Contents:

  • Ready Remarks
  • Questions and Solutions
  • Name Contributors

Ready Remarks:

Operator

Good day, girls and gents. Thanks for standing by. Welcome to the VICI Properties third quarter 2022 earnings convention name. Right now, all individuals are in a listen-only mode.

Please be aware that this convention name is being recorded at this time, October 28, 2022. I’ll now flip the decision over to Samantha Gallagher, basic counsel with VICI Properties.

Samantha GallagherGovt Vice President, Normal Counsel, and Secretary

Thanks, operator, and good morning. Everybody ought to have entry to the corporate’s third-quarter 2022 earnings launch and supplemental data. The discharge and supplemental data could be discovered within the Traders part of the VICI Properties web site at www.viciproperties.com. A few of our feedback at this time will likely be forward-looking statements throughout the which means of the federal securities legal guidelines.

Ahead-looking statements, that are normally recognized by way of phrases as will, consider, count on, ought to, steerage, intend, outlook, tasks, or different related phrases are topic to quite a few dangers and uncertainties that might trigger precise outcomes to vary materially from what we count on. Due to this fact, it’s best to train warning in deciphering and counting on them. I refer you to the corporate’s SEC filings for a extra detailed dialogue of the dangers that might impression future working outcomes and monetary situation. Throughout the name, we’ll focus on sure non-GAAP measures, which we consider could be helpful in evaluating the corporate’s working efficiency.

These measures shouldn’t be thought of in isolation or as an alternative choice to our monetary outcomes ready in accordance with GAAP. A reconciliation of those measures to probably the most instantly comparable GAAP measure is obtainable on our web site in our third quarter 2022 earnings launch and our supplemental data. For added data with respect to non-GAAP measures of sure tenants and or counterparties described herein, please seek advice from respective firm’s public filings with the SEC. Internet hosting the decision at this time, we have now Ed Pitoniak, chief govt officer; John Payne, president, and chief working officer; David Kieske, chief monetary officer; Gabe Wasserman, chief accounting officer; and Danny Valoy, vp of acquisitions and finance.

Ed and group will present some opening remarks, after which we’ll open the decision to questions. With that, I will flip the decision over to Ed.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Thanks, Samantha, and good morning, everybody. The third quarter of 2022 for VICI was 1 / 4 of each realization and persevering with activation. By realization, I imply that in Q3 2022, we realized the total magnitude and impression of our progress actions in 2021. And by activation, I imply that we proceed to create incremental capital allocation alternatives for VICI, particularly in nongaming.

The important thing advantages realized in Q3 2022 included rising our income by 100% versus the identical quarter in 2021, manifesting the total impression of our acquisitions of the Venetian and MGP; rising our AFFO by 83% 12 months over 12 months; rising AFFO per share by 8.5% 12 months over 12 months; saying a dividend enhance of 8.3%, giving VICI a dividend compound annual progress charge of 8.2% since our emergence in October 2017. Our key progress actions in Q3 and early This autumn included saying an extra $186 million of financings inside our partnership with Nice Wolf Resorts, saying our $203.9 million acquisition of Rocky Hole On line casino Resort, saying a $200 million actual property financing partnership with Canyon Ranch. In 2022, we have invested in relationships with high-quality companions working in high-quality experiential segments. Our year-to-date capital allocation commitments, those I simply talked about, plus our Cabot funding introduced in June 2022 and are anticipated to generate a going-in weighted common unlevered yield on funding of roughly 7.4%, as this almost $710 million of capital is deployed over time.

Earlier than I flip the decision over to John Payne and David Kieske, who will discuss our outlook, progress actions, and monetary outcomes, I need to say just a few phrases about our new partnership with Canyon Ranch, which we introduced simply final week. Once we introduced our new partnership with Cabot Golf again in June, you heard me discuss our perception within the energy and moat qualities of what we name pilgrimage experiences, many experiential classes, particularly these with sturdy components of experience and/or data accumulation are pyramidal in form. And on the apex of those pyramids are the purest rarest realizations of that class’s expertise. These are experiences that have a tendency to draw inside that experiential class, probably the most beneficial and constant clientele, ready and prepared via all cycles to pay a premium for the purest realization of the expertise to which they’re devoted.

At VICI, as actual property buyers, our thesis is a straightforward and, we consider, highly effective one. Locations of pilgrimage are locations of nice worth. We need to and we’re investing in these locations. Cabot creates and operates golf resorts that signify pilgrimage experiences in golf.

We’re proud and excited to accomplice with Cabot on the creation of Cabot Citrus Farms is our subsequent pilgrimage vacation spot, and we consider we are able to accomplice on many subsequent alternatives with Cabot. I have to be aware as nicely the Las Vegas Strip can be a pilgrimage vacation spot for individuals searching for apex experiences of all types. I used to be simply there this week. It’s the busiest place on Earth.

Within the experiential class of wellness and private efficiency, Canyon Ranch has been, is, and I consider will likely be for many years to come back, the market chief, creating an working resort that represents a definition of pilgrimage experiences and wellness. The Canyon Ranch model was born in 1974. For almost 50 years now, Canyon Ranch’s clientele has traveled to Canyon Ranch Resorts to make crucial funding they’ll make, an funding in themselves, within the betterment of their lives, physique, thoughts, and spirit. The Canyon Ranch clientele, with the intention to make this funding and belief themselves to the Canyon Ranch group, an energetic belief that the Canyon Ranch group takes with existential seriousness.

Underneath the management of Chairman and Principal proprietor, John Goff, a legend in American actual property investing via his creation of Crescent actual property, and CEO, Jeff Kuster, previously North American head for Ralph Lauren. Canyon Ranch has constructed a wellness and human efficiency group of nice power and authority. This group contains by the use of instance, a former U.S. sergeant basic; a former head of sports activities drugs, analysis, and innovation on the U.S.

Olympic Committee; a former Head of Bodily Remedy for the U.S. Girls’s Nationwide Soccer group; a former power coach with the Philadelphia 76ers; a nationally famend behavioral therapists; physicians who’ve pioneered built-in and life-style drugs fields; former chef, dietitian on the U.S. Olympic Committee; and a Harvard Divinity College-appointed non secular innovator. The Canyon Ranch clientele is ready and prepared to pay via all cyclicals premium for the experiences and life enhancements they acquire at Canyon Ranch.

As a lot of , I’ve labored throughout ski resorts, heli-ski resorts, seaside resorts, golf resorts, and now on line casino resorts. I can inform you, based mostly on my expertise that the Canyon Ranch capital and working financial mannequin is among the many most compelling and productive I’ve seen in income depth per greenback of capital invested, in margins, and within the returns on invested capital. Canyon Ranch, we consider, will profit significantly for many years to come back from extremely optimistic demographic and cultural tail. The expansion alternatives for Canyon Ranch are manifold, each domestically and internationally, and we’re very excited to be Canyon Ranch’s capital accomplice funding this progress.

You’ll be able to hear John Goff converse of the function he sees VICI enjoying and Canyon Ranch’s progress. For those who watch the Mad Cash section that John and I did with Jim Cramer on October 17. That clip could be discovered at our web site, www.viciproperties.com. Lastly, we’re notably enthusiastic about our first funding with Canyon Ranch as a result of it allows us to speculate capital into and finally provides us the chance to personal high-quality actual property in one in every of America’s most dynamic metropolitan areas, Austin, Texas, a area that, no less than for the foreseeable future, we can’t put money into via gaming.

Let me now flip the decision over to John Payne, who will discuss our outlook and progress actions. John?

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

Thanks, Ed. Good morning, everybody. It is good to be speaking to you this morning. Throughout the third quarter, we introduced the acquisition of Rocky Hole On line casino Resort in partnership with our present tenant, Century Casinos.

Upon closing, hire beneath our grasp lease with Century will enhance by $15.5 million, representing a 7.6% acquisition cap charge. Given our relationship with Century, we had been capable of leverage our present grasp lease and our mixed value of capital to construction a transaction that work for all three events concerned, that being VICI, Century, and Golden Leisure, the vendor of the asset. We’re enthusiastic about increasing our relationship with Century as we have witnessed their relentless working focus firsthand since we collectively acquired three regional property in 2019. And upon the closing of Rocky Hole, we sit up for including one other exceptional regional vacation spot asset to our portfolio.

Transferring to the outlook for progress. We are sometimes requested how the transaction surroundings seems in actual time. I will repeat one thing I typically say, which is that transactions don’t come collectively in a single day. Ed touched on our Nice Wolf, Cabot, and Canyon Ranch partnerships, and I’d merely level out that the transactions we’re capable of focus on at this time signify only a fraction of the hassle we undertake behind the scenes.

All through the third quarter, our group remained as busy as ever introducing our firm to potential companions and forging relationships throughout a wide range of sectors. Actually, our whole firm is actively concerned to find methods to place VICI because the capital accomplice of alternative for gaming and experiential operators. As you may think about, capital market fluctuations could make it difficult to pinpoint our precise value of capital at any given time. Nevertheless, I stress that remaining self-discipline is core to our underwriting course of.

The panorama for transactions stays aggressive, and it is essential to know that vendor expectations don’t essentially alter in actual time. With that mentioned, at VICI, we concentrate on what we are able to management, which is, one, our partnership method. We encourage potential companions to talk to our present tenants and consider we are able to place ourselves to finally win the ties. Two, disciplined and rigorous underwriting, we try for accretion in each transaction.

And because of the work of our group, consider we are able to stay aggressive. And third, discovering methods to create our personal success. The panorama for propco transaction shouldn’t be zero-sum. We have realized to adapt to a wide range of situations and consider we are able to uncover alternatives that is probably not apparent to our rivals.

Just some weeks in the past, we crossed the five-year mark since we began the corporate. We wholeheartedly consider that our monitor file, which incorporates over $30 billion of transaction speaks to our relentless focus and dedication to create long-term worth for our shareholders. We are going to proceed to stick to the method that’s answerable for our success thus far and can attempt to develop the corporate accretively for years to come back. Now I will flip the decision over to David, who will focus on our monetary outcomes and entry to capital.

David?

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Thanks, John. We’re clearly in a unstable macro surroundings the place ongoing inflation and rising rates of interest aren’t solely dominating the monetary information but additionally factoring into the transaction market requiring consumers and sellers to regulate to a market backdrop we have now not seen in a few years. As John talked about, VICI turned 5 years previous on October 6. And since our inception, we have now been disciplined in sustaining a optimistic unfold to our value of capital.

So, even in an surroundings the place the 10-year treasury charge is north of 4%, a charge that many youthful buyers have by no means seen of their lifetime, VICI is concentrated on sustaining self-discipline in the whole lot we pursue. We’re lucky that we have now constructed a steadiness sheet to climate these turbulent instances with no floating charge debt, no maturities till 2024 and ample liquidity to deploy capital accretively with main operators like we did with Century, Nice Wolf, and Canyon Ranch for the reason that second quarter. When it comes to VICI’s liquidity and steadiness sheet, as of September 30, we had roughly $4.7 billion in complete liquidity, comprised of $726 million in money, money equivalents, and short-term investments, $490 million of estimated internet proceeds accessible upon settlement of our excellent ahead sale agreements, $2.5 billion of availability beneath our revolving credit score facility and $1 billion of availability beneath the delayed draw time period mortgage. Throughout the quarter, we bought roughly 3.9 million shares with an mixture worth of $135 million after charges beneath our ATM program.

The entire shares had been bought topic to a ahead sale settlement and as such, aren’t mirrored on our steadiness sheet. When it comes to leverage, we ended the quarter with complete debt of $15.5 billion, inclusive of our professional rata share of the BREIT JV debt. Our internet debt to adjusted EBITDA professional forma for a full 12 months of hire from the MGP transaction is roughly 5.8 instances. We’ve a weighted common rate of interest of 4.4%, bearing in mind our hedge portfolio, and a weighted common 6.9 years to maturity.

Turning to the earnings assertion. As Ed talked about, we doubled our GAAP income 12 months over 12 months, a feat we’re very happy with, and I need to thank all the VICI group for all their efforts in delivering this progress. AFFO for the third quarter was roughly $471 million or $0.49 per share. Whole AFFO in Q3 elevated 83% 12 months over 12 months, whereas AFFO per share elevated 8.5% over the prior 12 months.

As a reminder, the disparity between total AFFO progress and AFFO per share progress is because of a rise in our share depend, which elevated primarily from the fairness raised in shares issued to consummate our transformative acquisition of MGP throughout Q2 and our acquisition of the Venetian Resort throughout Q1 of this 12 months. Our outcomes as soon as once more spotlight our extremely environment friendly triple internet mannequin given the numerous enhance in adjusted EBITDA as a proportion of the corresponding enhance in income, and our margins proceed to run sturdy within the 90% vary when eliminating noncash objects. Our G&A was $12.1 million for the quarter and as a share of complete revenues was only one.6%, according to our full-year expectations and one of many lowest ratios within the triple-net sector. Turning to steerage.

We’re updating AFFO steerage for 2022 in each absolute {dollars}, in addition to on a per-share foundation. AFFO for the 12 months ended December 31, 2022, it is anticipated to be between $1.682 billion and $1.692 billion or between $1.91 and $1.92 per diluted frequent share. Our up to date steerage displays the uncapped CPI lease escalation of 8.1% that VICI will obtain beneath our Las Vegas grasp lease and regional grasp lease with Caesars, efficient for the lease 12 months starting on November 1, 2022. Moreover, the per share estimates replicate the impression of treasury accounting associated to the pending 15.3 million ahead shares bought beneath our ATM program throughout Q2 and Q3.

As a reminder, our steerage doesn’t embody the impression on working outcomes from any attainable future acquisitions or inclinations, capital markets exercise, or different nonrecurring transactions. As we have now mentioned prior to now with you, we file a noncash CECL cost on a quarterly foundation, which attributable to its inherent unpredictability leaves us unable to forecast internet earnings and FFO with accuracy. Accordingly, our steerage is AFFO-focused, as we consider AFFO represents one of the best ways of measuring the productiveness of our fairness investments and evaluating our monetary efficiency and talent to pay dividends. With that, Maegan, please open the road for questions.

Questions & Solutions:

Operator

Completely. [Operator instructions] Our first query comes from the road of Anthony Paolone. Your line is now open.

Anthony PaoloneJPMorgan Chase and Firm — Analyst

Thanks and good morning. I used to be questioning are you able to discuss simply your efforts to take a look at investments internationally and the way that is coming alongside. And likewise, simply your urge for food round that, given what’s occurring all over the world.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

John, do you need to begin?

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

Positive. Good morning, Tony. How are you? Good to speak to you. So, it is positively been one thing that we have now been targeted on for the previous couple of years, you have heard us discuss this that we have grown, clearly, domestically in our first 5 years, however we at all times have positioned the corporate to develop internationally and we’re spending time not solely within the on line casino sector but additionally within the experiential sector outdoors the U.S.

and learning markets the place we predict we wish to personal actual property, and we’re in the midst of that course of and understanding the underwriting and understanding the international locations the place we’d personal actual property and their legal guidelines and we’re proper in the midst of it, Tony. Nothing to announce right now, nevertheless it’s of curiosity for us to develop internationally.

Anthony PaoloneJPMorgan Chase and Firm — Analyst

Nice. Thanks.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Steve Sakwa with Evercore ISI. Your line is now open.

Steve SakwaEvercore ISI — Analyst

Are you able to hear me?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Sure.

Steve SakwaEvercore ISI — Analyst

OK. Thanks. Ed, I used to be simply questioning when you may possibly discuss the place you are seeing extra alternatives. Is it with kind of a few of the public gaming corporations which have seen a giant change of their value of capital and debt markets? Or is it extra on the personal facet with corporations like Cabot and Canyon Ranch the place possibly value of capital is even much less accessible?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. It is a good query, Steve, and good to speak to you. I’d say we’re seeing alternatives on either side. I’d say the personal facet, although, to your, I believe implicit level might be even richer fishing floor proper now.

And that has to do actually with the state of the credit score markets. As most of you on this name know, financial institution credit score, particularly to actual property credit has successfully dried up and I used to be studying the transcript of the Blackstone name final week, which I at all times do as a result of when you do not hearken to what John Grey is saying at any given time, you are lacking a chance to select up a variety of intelligence, and I believed it was telling the diploma to which John was emphasizing to learn, which they consider a variety of their actual property capital allocation within the close to to midterm goes to be credit-focused. And you have seen that from us as nicely. I’d say that we’re at some extent within the cycle the place would-be sellers have nonetheless not gotten the memo that the world has modified radically.

And as a sign of how radically the world has modified, I have been buying and selling emails with Mark Streeter at JPMorgan, the IG REIT credit score analyst, and he despatched me these graphs of the volatility of credit score. And if these had been EKG, that affected person could be in a world of damage. After which I noticed final evening from Hartnett that U.S. Treasury efficiency this 12 months is the worst since 1788 when america of America was a cool little start-up.

So, the state of the credit score market is, to your level, Steve, prefer it’s powerful if you do not have entry to capital. And as David simply emphasised, we have over $4 billion of liquidity. We have nearly $1.3 billion of efficient money, and we’re very excited to place that to work. We’ll put it in each with personal operators and public.

And in some instances, it’ll go into credit score within the close to to midterm with conversion to actual property possession normally. So as to, frankly, capitalize on the truth that we have now capital when a variety of different individuals do not.

Steve SakwaEvercore ISI — Analyst

OK. If I may simply ask one different query. I do know you are in all probability not giving particular person yields on, say, Cabot and Canyon Ranch, however may you assist us take into consideration the yields in possibly a broad sense for these improvement yields, which clearly carry extra danger versus form of stabilized, , acquisition yields and, , offers that you simply would possibly get in your highway for. So, simply how are you fascinated by yields on improvement versus possibly stabilized acquisitions?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. Properly, clearly, Steve, we do should be compensated for the chance that’s related to improvement. And I will simply return to the 7.4% unlevered yield for the almost 700-some million of capital that we have deployed in Q2 and early Q3 and I believe that 7.4% unlevered yield moving into to present individuals consolation that we have now been adequately compensated for our danger.

Steve SakwaEvercore ISI — Analyst

Nice. Thanks.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of R.J. Milligan with Raymond James. Your line is now open.

R.J. MilliganRaymond James — Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Definitely recognize your feedback on value of capital and sustaining self-discipline and positively, the monitor file that you simply guys solely do offers which can be accretive however I am curious the way you view your value of capital at this time, how do you calculate it? And I suppose given John’s feedback that sellers’ expectations do not at all times alter with the altering value of capital. Do you count on a pause on exterior progress on extra of the center of the green gaming property whereas the bid-ask unfold stays comparatively broad?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

David, do you need to begin on that?

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Positive. R.J., it is nice discuss to you. I imply, one of many — we have now this debate each day internally, proper, that once you see the 10-year transferring 10, 15, 25 foundation factors, and clearly, the inventory market is doing what it is doing. Laborious to cost a deal every day.

So, we take a look at — however we do take a look at the unfold to our value of capital. And proper now, look, we’re getting 10-year pricing at 7%. So, the $5 billion that we raised again in April at 5%, internet adjusted at 4.5% with our hedge portfolio seems to be actually, actually good. However, R.J., we’ll at all times keep the unfold to our value of capital.

Clearly, our inventory has held up nicely. Debt pricing is what it’s. As Ed simply touched on, we have now $1.3 billion of liquidity that’s on the steadiness sheet, which doesn’t embody the time period mortgage or the revolver. Being cognizant that money shouldn’t be free and that there is an implicit value of that money, we’re going to make sure that we proceed to do the offers that we have carried out prior to now, sustaining that unfold.

And your remark round form of center of the green offers, I believe you will see extra of the Rocky Gaps of the world had been a bit of bit smaller offers and a few of the giant mega offers will in all probability take a pause for some time simply given the uncertainty round form of the place the world is finally going. However we be ok with our pipeline. I believe it is busier than it is ever been, and the dialogue is bigger than it is ever been, however we have to be relentless in making certain that we are able to proceed to ship constant accretion 12 months in and 12 months out for our shareholders.

R.J. MilliganRaymond James — Analyst

Thanks, David. I recognize that. Simply as a follow-up — go forward, Ed.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Oh, I used to be simply going to say, R.J., and whereas clearly, the price of debt capital has been extremely unstable. And for many REITs, the price of fairness capital has been very unstable or simply merely negatively trending. We’re in a novel place the place our fairness on a relative foundation, has held up so nicely with us having been the best-performing S&P 500 REIT 12 months thus far via September 30, and I am guessing as of yesterday, we nonetheless are. So, we do have a power to our fairness worth or fairness value that on a comparative foundation does signify aggressive benefit.

Again to you, R.J.

R.J. MilliganRaymond James — Analyst

Thanks. Simply as a follow-up, on condition that bid-ask unfold for kind of the center of the green gaming property, do the decision choices that you simply guys have turn out to be a extra engaging choice to kind of bridge the hole till cap charges alter?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

John?

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

So, R.J., it is good to speak to you this morning. Once you’re talking, I believe you are talking extra of the one put/name we have now on the Indiana property, and we proceed to observe the good efficiency that our tenant, Caesars, has been dealing with these property. They’ve capital nonetheless going into the 2 property in Indianapolis. They’ve rebranded each of these casinos and so they proceed to develop.

So, we’ll proceed to take a look at these. These — the put/name is energetic throughout 2024. We sit right here in October of 2022. So, we’ll monitor them.

We love these property. We actually like what Caesars is doing with them and in rising that enterprise. And like I mentioned, we’ll proceed to take a look at these over time.

R.J. MilliganRaymond James — Analyst

Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Financial institution. Your line is open.

Carlo SantarelliDeutsche Financial institution — Analyst

Hey, guys. Thanks. David, I used to be simply questioning, as you concentrate on the positioning of the steadiness sheet and clearly 5.8 instances professional forma at this time and prone to go down within the absence of transactions. How a lot does the present charge surroundings change the parameters that you simply need to function inside?

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

It is a good query, Carlo. Good to talk to you. I hope you are nicely. Look, the present charge surroundings is it bounces round each day.

And so, we have to run the enterprise taking a long-term view, however being conscious of if we needed to worth one thing or if we needed to shut on one thing at this time or within the close to time period, how that may impression finally accretion, proper? We have to drive accretive offers and be disciplined in what we have carried out since Day 1. So, it is one thing we watch. We have entry to the revolver. We have entry to the late-draw time period mortgage.

Fortunately, we have now no maturities till 2024, the place we have now to go to the debt markets, nevertheless it’s one thing that we’ll be monitoring and ensuring that we proceed to drive progress to the steadiness sheet — via the steadiness sheet and may keep the steadiness sheet able of power. And as you mentioned, bringing down leverage over time via probably funding offers with our free money circulate.

Carlo SantarelliDeutsche Financial institution — Analyst

Nice. Thanks, David.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Wesley Golladay with Baird. Your line is now open.

Wesley GolladayRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Hey, good morning, everybody. You guys are having success with follow-on offers. You appear to be in negotiation place with good relative value of capital. However you probably did point out sellers are a bit of bit sluggish to regulate to pricing.

Are you trying to probably get some exclusivity rights to their enlargement as a method to possibly bridge the hole on the pricing at this level?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

If I perceive your query accurately, Wes, and good to speak to you, I’d say that once we kind partnerships with the likes of Cabot and Canyon Ranch and Nice Wolf and others, we’re most curious about creating relationships for the long run that give us a gentle circulate of capital allocation alternatives. Clearly, we need to be correctly priced, we wish our buyers to benefit from the yields that they should take pleasure in off of those investments. However I’d say it is extra about creating a long-term pipeline versus utilizing any form of negotiating leverage or the rest, frankly, to boost pricing per se. I imply, we’re very glad with the pricing.

As I famous in my remarks with Steve, a 7.4% blended unlevered yield throughout each improvement and present property, we predict is fairly good, fairly good yield on this surroundings. Actually, which means is a extremely whole lot. I would not say that we essentially use these long-term partnerships with the intention to purchase pricing as a lot as we do to amass a long-term pipeline of progress.

Wesley GolladayRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Yeah. I believe everybody was taking a look at is, sure, you take a look at — it seems to be like you’ve some — you get the preliminary yield, which is nice, that could be a bit of bit sluggish to regulate however then you’ll have some form of different worth, whether or not it is your embedded choices, possibly an exclusivity. I used to be simply questioning if there’s something extra qualitative or extra structural than an preliminary nominal yield that you simply might be able to get and it sounds prefer it’s simply extra of a we’re simply going to have this good relationship and it is going to naturally result in extra offers, which is at the moment occurring.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. And one issue, Wes, particularly once you’ve bought a group as small as our VICI group, the place we’re nonetheless simply a few dozen individuals with in all probability lowest G&A amongst all the large REITs as a share of income, is that one of many advantages of forming these long-term partnerships is that we create the foundational documentation that permits us to mainly rinse and repeat as we proceed to develop with these companions.

Wesley GolladayRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Yeah. Nice. Thanks for the time, everybody.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Thanks.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Richard Anderson with SMBC. Your line is now open.

Richard AndersonSMBC Nikko Securities — Analyst

Thanks. Good morning, all people. So, a few of these nongaming investments you guys are taking over the function of a lone ranger, if I can put it that approach, as a method to kind of step in on these items. And I am curious, is there a scenario the place that kind of technique of investing and kind of taking the heartbeat of those investments initially does it break down in any respect on this surroundings? And if it did, would you be prepared to be a bit of bit, , greater or, I ought to say, decrease within the capital stack in any of those, Nice Wolf, Canyon Ranch, Cabot, and so forth? What’s your urge for food for taking over extra danger on the outset of those nongaming property?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. I will flip it over to David in a second, Richard, and good to speak to you. Clearly, once we go into these relationships, we actually — we work arduous to ensure that our final greenback publicity is a degree of final greenback publicity we’re very snug with, such that if we ever did must step in, we’re stepping right into a scenario that at that final greenback degree of publicity for us could be very nicely protected and means that there’s nonetheless a variety of worth left within the asset. Past that, I will flip it over to David for his ideas.

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Yeah. Wealthy, nice to speak to you. The one factor that we like about these mortgage investments because it provides us a seat on the desk. It provides us perception to the enterprise.

It provides us publicity to the operator. And as you’ve seen with Cabot and Canyon a path to actual property possession. And so, issues just like the Nice Wolf the place we — our attachment level, as I mentioned, is 75% LTC. I believe your query is, would we be prepared to go greater or probably even present a senior portion, we’d if it is the proper operator, the proper sponsor, and the proper relationship, and once more, the general value of capital — return on that capital is commensurate with our capital.

And I believe the one factor to level out is, I do know we refer to those as improvement, however they actually construct the suites in broader actual property parlance. And VICI shouldn’t be doing the creating. We’re partnered with excessive, high-quality builders, set GMP contracts, and oversight by very, very skilled builders. So, whereas our improvement pipeline is strong, I believe you would probably see it deviate, which means we may go decrease within the Captec and even greater relying on what occurs with the credit score markets and ensuring that we’re rewarded for that.

Richard AndersonSMBC Nikko Securities — Analyst

OK. After which the second query is, , the U.S. REIT mannequin is basically a operate of targeted methods. For those who’re a lodge REIT, you are a multifamily REIT, and so forth.

You guys are extra of the Berkshire Hathaway mannequin, and also you’re understanding that there is a shared knitting of pilgrimage — I am saying I can not pronounce that phrase for some cause this morning. However a standard thread to all of them experiential. You mentioned simply earlier than you’ve a few dozen individuals working for you, how do you keep away from pitfalls the place one or a few of these investments do not fairly work out? Are you — ought to we count on to see a considerable enhance in individuals with expertise in these particular person asset courses and so forth? I am simply curious how the general entity will adapt as you develop your horizons and experiential actual property.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. Richard, it is an excellent query. It is a very top-of-mind query for each us as a administration group and for our board. And we do have a small group.

I’d simply say, although, this has nothing to do together with your query. I’d say in an inflationary surroundings the place our G&A is so screamingly low as a share of income, inflation clearly does not affect our value construction the best way it’ll on others. What we do, Richard, with the intention to lengthen our attain is I consider we get extra worth out of {our relationships} with our advisors than anyone else we all know of. From Day 1, we have now handled our advisors one of the best we probably can in order that once we go to them and say, “Hey, rather a lot a couple of class we need to be taught rather a lot about.

Assist us.” They’re proper there for us. And so, whether or not it is experiential classes or geographies with which we’re not acquainted internationally, we work with our advisors as if they’re full members of the group. And that extends our attain in a approach that is very cost-effective, nevertheless it’s additionally risk-mitigating as a result of we come up the training curve on each classes and geographies in a short time.

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

And, Wealthy, if I may — that is John. If I may simply add one different factor on this, it is essential to know that when Ed and I began the corporate in October ’17, we at all times positioned this REIT as an experiential REIT. In our first 5 years, we had been extra targeted within the playing area as a result of we noticed the alternatives there. However within the background, we had been at all times spending time learning these totally different sectors that you simply now begin to see investments that we’re making.

So, this isn’t a shift of our firm technique in any respect. It is simply you are beginning to simply see these new investments being made.

Richard AndersonSMBC Nikko Securities — Analyst

OK. Honest sufficient. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from Barry Jonas with Truist Securities. Your line is now open.

Barry JonasTruist Securities — Analyst

Hey, good morning, guys. Nice to speak to you. However present capital market circumstances and bid-ask spreads, I hoped to get your ideas on what inning you assume you are in for U.S. gaming actual property offers.

I suppose simply how penetrated is your addressable market right here at this level? Thanks.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

John?

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

Yeah. Properly, it is good to speak to you, Barry. We nonetheless assume there’s a variety of alternative on the market. I do know we noticed one another.

You had been in Vegas just lately and you have heard me say we — there is not any place. You have heard Ed say this. There is not any place as busy as Las Vegas, and we clearly have nice actual property on the strip, however there’s many alternatives within the regional market in Las Vegas, the downtown market, there’s different states which can be opening that we don’t personal actual property. There’s different places that we do personal actual property.

So, I do not know precisely what inning it’s, however I might inform you, we nonetheless see unbelievable quantity of alternative to develop our enterprise in proudly owning on line casino actual property.

Barry JonasTruist Securities — Analyst

Nice. After which if I may simply ask a follow-up. Do you assume over time, gaming operators will or possibly ought to transfer to a full opco mannequin? I imply, I am assuming protection continues to be the important thing query right here, however curious in case your ideas right here have developed over time.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

You realize, Barry, I believe it is as much as every operator to find out what’s one of the best enterprise mannequin for them given the general nature of their enterprise. We predict, clearly, companions like MGM and Penn are demonstrating that they are often very profitable of their capital-light, asset-light mannequin. And on the similar time, we have now unbelievable admiration for the best way Tom Reeg and Bret Yunker operating Caesars, the place they keep possession of a variety of actual property. I believe will probably be fascinating to inform over time.

And I believe the important thing query for anyone we accomplice with, whether or not in gaming or nongaming, is that if we do a deal, what would you do with the proceeds, proper? If we do a sale-leaseback with you, what is going to you do with the proceeds? And it is having a compelling use of proceeds that I believe is among the key determinants once you’re an asset controller, whether or not in gaming or nongaming, as to how engaging having a sale-leaseback relationship with us could be.

Barry JonasTruist Securities — Analyst

That is a fantastic level. All proper. Thanks a lot, guys.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Thanks, Barry.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Todd Thomas with KeyBanc. Your line is open.

Todd ThomasKeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst

Hello. Thanks. Good morning. I simply needed to comply with up on the dialogue round your value of capital and funding spreads.

Your value of fairness capital has held up comparatively nicely, Ed, you talked about that, and it has, nevertheless it’s additionally been unstable. The market has been unstable on the whole. And I am simply curious the way you handle deal circulate and underwrite potential investments when that funding unfold, and your value of capital could also be unstable throughout that point that you simply’re underwriting or negotiating offers. And I suppose alongside these strains, is there any consideration, clearly, you’ve liquidity which you have outlined.

However is there any consideration for doing extra on the ATM or issuing fairness upfront of some potential transactions to lock in your value of capital and supply even better certainty of vendor expectations could be step by step altering right here?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. Todd, good to speak to you. And I will flip it over to David in a second. I’d say one of many advantages of getting the quantity of liquidity we have now, the $4.7 billion that David alluded to, and particularly the $1.3 billion of mainly fairness capital, we already know the price of is that we have now a relative diploma of value certainty.

I need to emphasize comparatively. We is not going to have an absolute diploma of value certainty that a variety of others with a lot decrease liquidity simply merely would not have right now. However I will flip it over to David for his additional ideas to your query.

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Yeah. Todd, good to speak to you. I imply, I believe form of implicit in your dialog was — or your query, excuse me, was are we shutting down our pipeline or are we pulling again? I imply, I’d inform you, we’re busier than we have ever been as you noticed in June 1, we added a CIO, Calin Florio from Goldman Sachs, who had been thrilled about and is concentrated on opening extra doorways within the nongaming world and has been very, very energetic. And so, we always take a look at alternatives.

However finally, if the chance does not make sense or the market backs up or there is a change, we is not going to pursue a deal that’s not accretive, proper? The minute we do a foul deal, that will likely be our final deal we do as a result of we will be unable to boost capital going ahead from our house owners, our buyers, each on the fairness and the credit score facet. And we’re dwelling in a time that is fairly distinctive, clearly, this kind of rate of interest surroundings has not been round for a lot of, a few years, as Ed highlighted in his remarks and a few of the charts that we have seen. However we’ll proceed to be targeted on elevating liquidity like we did in June and August on the ATM, the place we lower a bit of little bit of tailwind within the fairness markets and bolstered our steadiness sheet, however when it comes to our intentions going ahead, I can not discuss that, and we’ll see what tomorrow brings. However I believe we have arrange a steadiness sheet, we have arrange a value of capital that also could be aggressive on this surroundings, however we’re simply going to be much more disciplined than we have now prior to now.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Hey, Todd, I simply need to add to David’s remarks and I believe it is pertinent to your query. For those who take a look at the entire liquidity that David outlined for you, about $4.7 billion, that represents — that’s an quantity, I ought to say, equal to about 10% of our present steadiness sheet, our $45 billion of enterprise worth. I do not know what number of different REITs on the market have complete liquidity equal to 10% of their steadiness sheet, particularly in the event that they’re wherever close to as large as we’re. And that actually does signify the quantity of firepower we have now at a time when firepower is in any other case very arduous — both very arduous or very expensive to realize.

The final level I’d make is of that $4.7 billion of liquidity and David, please appropriate me if I am mistaken right here, solely $700 million of that $4.7 billion is definitely at the moment on the steadiness sheet, the money and the cash-like devices that David referred to. The ATM proceeds and the delayed draw time period mortgage and the revolver, clearly, aren’t on the steadiness sheet as a result of all of them stay undrawn or unsettled.

Todd ThomasKeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst

OK. That is useful. I recognize that. If I may simply comply with up actual fast then on the credit score investments that you have made extra just lately right here.

You talked about Blackstone and clearly, there are different credit score buyers on the market. I am simply questioning when you may deal with the aggressive panorama for a majority of these nongaming credit score investments and a few of the transactions that you have introduced extra just lately.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

I will flip it over to David in a second. However I believe the elemental situation that we’re discovering in something that is resembling a aggressive scenario when it comes to a would-be borrower or accomplice evaluating our credit score is, I believe we’re rather a lot simpler, rather a lot friendlier to do enterprise with. David?

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Yeah. I imply, Todd, that is when it comes right down to. And I do know that is arduous to know with the intention to put in your report, however relationships matter. You have heard John discuss it for years.

For those who see the clip that Ed referred to with John Goff and Jim Cramer and Ed on CNBC, he was very bullish concerning the alternative to do extra collectively. These are relationships that we foster and construct and spend time with once we did Chelsea Friends again in June of 2020, it was aggressive. It was a bid course of. However a part of our means to win that was: one, our long-term view.

We’re not a fund pushed — we do not have a fund life. And finally, {our relationships} imply rather a lot. And it is the way you deal with as Ed talked about with respect to our advisors, we deal with our counterparties extraordinarily, extraordinarily nicely as a result of we need to do extra collectively, we wish either side of the desk to win and really feel good and are available again to the desk to do extra collectively sooner or later.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

And simply so as to add to that, Todd, once we’re in these lending relationships, we do not see our companions to debt. We’re not a GP that should pay our payments by seeing our would-be credit score companions to debt. And that not solely makes an financial distinction to them, it makes a relationship distinction.

Todd ThomasKeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst

OK. All proper. Thanks.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Greg McGinniss with Scotiabank. Your line is now open.

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

Hey, good morning. Simply first, a few fast ones right here. So, on condition that we’re 4 days away from November, can you disclose the CPI-based lease escalators that you simply’re anticipating to launch?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

David?

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Yeah, Greg. It was in my remarks. It is 8.1%.

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

My apologies. Thanks. After which additionally, given your present value of capital, does the excessive 7% name charge on the Indiana property, are you able to make sense to me at this time?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

John?

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

I talked about this a bit of bit earlier that we proceed to observe this enterprise develop capital from the operator, Caesars, the proprietor at this time, continues to enter the enterprise. This name — this put/name is energetic till the tip of ’24. So, we’ll proceed to observe the expansion of the enterprise. We’ll see the capital go in and we’ll decide the proper time for this name choice.

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

All proper. Thanks. After which only a last one for me. Ed, within the earnings launch, you spoke concerning the multitrillion-dollar place-based wellness sector.

I used to be simply hoping you would develop on what ideas are literally included inside that sector. After which broadly, the place you assume one of the best alternatives for funding could be, and the way you are fascinated by structuring these investments that does sound prefer it’s doubtless on the credit score facet proper now.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Properly, it is — nicely, to be clear, Greg, it is on the credit score facet proper now with Canyon Ranch with a really clear path to personal the true property of Canyon Ranch Austin and in addition on actual property probably in locations like Tucson and Lennox and elsewhere that we are able to go collectively each domestically and internationally with Canyon Ranch. Clearly, we’re most targeted on the place-based dimension of worldwide wellness. And I’d say that based mostly on the analysis we have carried out, one of many actually interesting issues about place-based wellness on a worldwide foundation is that the mannequin from continent to continent is basically fairly related. That is in distinction to gaming.

The U.S., Singapore, Macau are notable for having nice actual property depth to their gaming fashions. However that actual property depth shouldn’t be discovered fairly the identical diploma in a variety of different areas across the globe. Alternatively, once more, place-based wellness is basically very a lot the identical form of idea as you go from the U.S. to, for instance, Europe and the U.Ok.

the place there are lots of operators working very very like Canyon Ranch on the excessive finish with quantity of actual property depth.

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

OK. Thanks. So, I suppose related then to the kind of mannequin that we’re seeing Canyon Ranch and the opposite sorts of operators that you simply’d be trying to make investments inside this area?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. And I imply, when you concentrate on it, traditionally, take into consideration the good European spa cities that began to turn out to be standard again within the 1700s. The spa custom has centuries of historical past. And the trendy spa experiences grew out of these extra historical traditions frankly, it goes all the best way again to the Romans.

They had been within the spa enterprise, proper? This can be a enterprise that is truly now that I say it does not return centuries. It goes again millennia.

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

So, you assume it has the identical energy then, I suppose, is what you are saying?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

I believe that is fairly protected. Anyway, thanks, Greg.

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

Sure. Thanks.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of David Katz with Jefferies. Your line is open.

David KatzJefferies — Analyst

Hello, everybody. You lined a variety of floor, and so I do not need to simply choose up time on basic precept. However one very particular query. As I discuss to operators in gaming who I’d have categorised 12 months in the past as form of by no means counterparties for you? My sense is that there could be some softening to that finish in these conversations.

Would you concur with that?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

John?

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

Hey, good morning, David. I’d. And I simply assume that is only a matter of time. We have been round for 5 years, and I believe we have been out explaining why our type of capital can work for gaming operators, notably, as Ed mentioned, after they have nice use of proceeds to develop the corporate.

And I believe that many CFOs and CEOs of corporations that mentioned they might by no means do it now have spent the time to know how our capital work and the way we might be companions and at the moment are fascinated by it. Would not essentially imply they’re going to transact. However I believe when you’re in a C-suite of any firm, you need to be fascinated by all of the other ways which you could work together with your steadiness sheet and construction your steadiness sheet. So, not shocking in any respect, David, that you simply’re listening to that, and we’re listening to that.

David KatzJefferies — Analyst

Proper. You and I do know they need to contemplate it till they do, that it feels like they’re. Apologies, Ed, please end.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. I used to be simply going to say, David, so as to add on to John’s remarks. For those who return to October 21, the yield to worst on gaming high-yield credit score on a blended foundation was 8.21%, proper? Really, the blended deal to worst on leisure was 10.03%. So, whether or not it is gaming operators or leisure operators, they’re taking a look at present yields to worst on their high-yield credit score and nearly all of them are high-yield, only a few of them are IG.

After they begin to take a look at our cap charges, they notice that after they must refinance this debt that is at the moment yielding 8.21% or greater, our capital may look very engaging.

David KatzJefferies — Analyst

Good. Thanks very a lot.

Operator

Thanks. Our subsequent query comes from the road of Smedes Rose with Citi. Your line is now open.

Smedes RoseCiti — Analyst

Hello. Thanks. I simply needed to ask you, once you probably have alternatives in smaller regional gaming markets the place possibly they’ve refinancing points arising and also you — as you talked about, it is a aggressive value of capital. However in a recessionary surroundings in smaller markets the place probably that demographic is extra hit in a recession, do you concentrate on the way you underwrite your hire protection in these? Would you count on to vary that in any respect? Or how do you form of — I am simply kind of questioning the way you’re kind of fascinated by that as you take a look at these alternatives?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Yeah. I’ll flip it over to — John, simply earlier than I flip it over to you, I simply need to acknowledge Smedes that — we missed — we missed your buddy and colleague, Michael Bilerman. We at all times loved when Michael confirmed up on our calls, and we want him the easiest in his new function at Tanger. Anyway, over to you, John.

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

Sure. Smedes, it is an excellent query, and we spend a variety of time in all of the totally different markets with all of the totally different operators as we take a look at offers, understanding the market, understanding their segmentation of their clients, what they’re seeing. I believe this since you comply with gaming, it is a distinctive time for our tenants. We have spent a variety of time on this name speaking concerning the market fluctuations.

However within the gaming enterprise proper now, relying on what market and who you are speaking to, some are having — proceed to have file earnings. And nearly the entire operators are seeing sturdy — proceed to see sturdy enterprise. So, we’re very cautious in no matter deal that we underwrite and understanding the market, the dynamics, the kind of shopper, how far the patron comes from all of these issues once we underwrite and we’ll watch out as we take a look at regional markets in Las Vegas markets, however our tenants have carried out a tremendous job in working their companies and persevering with to develop them throughout this very distinctive time.

Smedes RoseCiti — Analyst

OK. After which I simply — I recognize that. And one factor I simply needed to ask you. I imply, once we take a look at different triple internet REITs, the transaction quantity has come down rather a lot and cap charges aren’t actually transferring.

There’s — as you have talked about, Ed, kind of the standoff between sellers and consumers. However in latest offers in gaming, I imply, there have not been that many, however cap charges have moved from prior bulletins. So, I am simply questioning, do you assume this kind of asset class is extra kind of prepared to maneuver? Are they able the place they kind of want to maneuver as a result of there are financing points? Or I imply, would you agree with that, that possibly issues are adjusting a bit of faster or not?

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

You realize, it is arduous to inform, Smedes. Each deal is so particular whether or not it’s the geographic location the asset is in, the character of the asset itself, the tenant, and its credit score high quality, I do not know. I might have a troublesome time saying that cap charges inside gaming have moved significantly up, which is implicit in what you are saying, given the market backdrop. I believe it is nonetheless a bit too early to inform as a result of I would not generalize from the pretty restricted quantity of exercise that we and GLPI have engaged in over the previous few months.

Smedes RoseCiti — Analyst

OK. Thanks, guys. Recognize it.

Operator

Thanks. I’ll now flip the convention again over to Edward Pitoniak for any closing remarks.

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

Thanks very a lot once more. In closing, we merely need to thanks on your time with us at this time. We consider we’re rather well positioned at VICI to proceed rising our portfolio throughout what could also be — nicely, no, what’s a really unsure interval whereas driving superior shareholder worth. Once more, thanks, and good well being to all.

Operator

[Operator signoff]

Period: 0 minutes

Name individuals:

Samantha GallagherGovt Vice President, Normal Counsel, and Secretary

Ed PitoniakChief Govt Officer

John PaynePresident and Chief Working Officer

David KieskeChief Monetary Officer

Anthony PaoloneJPMorgan Chase and Firm — Analyst

Steve SakwaEvercore ISI — Analyst

R.J. MilliganRaymond James — Analyst

Carlo SantarelliDeutsche Financial institution — Analyst

Wesley GolladayRobert W. Baird and Firm — Analyst

Richard AndersonSMBC Nikko Securities — Analyst

Barry JonasTruist Securities — Analyst

Todd ThomasKeyBanc Capital Markets — Analyst

Greg McGinnissScotiabank — Analyst

David KatzJefferies — Analyst

Smedes RoseCiti — Analyst

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